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Episode 80: Glen Falls > Hartford (2013)

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This week on the program, Adam Scheinberg (past guest and prominent .netter) has been kind enough to host. He is joined by past guest of the program, Parker Harrington, and new guest, Will Rubenstein. The panel has the pleasurable task of reviewing Glens Falls, both Worcester shows, and Hartford. Unfortunately, we don’t enough time to play all the clips we want, but we found the ten best which should not surprise you. So just press play and get to the good stuff already.

Thanks for listening,


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Episode 79: Hampton > Rochester (2013)

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As you may have noticed, there’s been a little hiatus since Dick’s, which can be blamed on my non-podcasting life things (i.e. school).  Fortunately, Katie from TWoL was able to pitch in with coordinating the panels and I was able to shift hosting duties temporarily. Kicking this run off, panelist Josh Korin took control as host and was joined by new guest of the show, Troy Laur, and …. myself! We cover the first four shows of tour: Hampton through Rochester. Of course, all basic Type II procedures have been followed: banter, anecdotes, and professional insight mixed with a healthy dose audio clips. For those with short attention spans, here is your spoiler: Woo!

We are covering the final eight shows of tour in two more episodes, which should also be available when you are reading this.  We hope you guys enjoy, thanks for listening.

- Steve

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Episode 76: Tahoe (2013)

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This week on the program I am joined by three guests, .netter Brian Feller, and “Rory” and Ben (aka Guy Forget) from Online Phish Tour. On this episode we tackle just two shows, our easiest “load” of the summer. It is nearly impossible to give a proper introduction to the epic Tweezer jam from night two which is easily the highlight of (insert some length of time that you choose). But don’t let the Tweezer overshadow the rest of this stop on tour. In fact, we found quite a few other great clips to showcase.

Stay tuned for our final show of the summer (before Dick’s) when I host Chris Glushko and some TBD guests in wrapping up summer tour with our review of the Bill Graham and Hollywood Bowl shows.

Thanks for listening,

- Steve

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Episode 73: PNC > MPP (2013)

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This week on the podcast, Type II Cast continues with its review of summer tour 2013. For this round, we have four shows: PNC, Jones Beach, and both Merriweather Post Pavilions. Joining me on this episode are panelist Drew Hitz and past guest of the show Chris Bertolet.  The three of us guide you on a journey that is “stronger than the storm,” while providing insight and anecdotes to put this run into context. Of course, we have some tasty clips to supplement the commentary as only Type II can do. And spoiler alert, we have been loving tour so far! So sit back, relax, and block off the next hour and a half to take this trip to face melt city.

Thanks for listening and we will see you after Chicago!

- Steve

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Episode 70: Phish’s Abstract Moment

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This week, the podcast pushes the boundaries of recorded Phish analysis as we are joined by Zac Cohen and Andy Greenberg, resident essayists at Please Me Have No Regrets. On this episode, I’m talking with Zac and Andy about a piece they’ve been hard at work on over the past few weeks; “Phish’s Abstract Moment.” It is their contention that just after covering The Beatles “White Album” on Halloween in 1994, Phish embarked on a nearly-year long journey in which their dominant mode of jamming was an “Abstract” one, characterized by a willingness to explore the outer reaches of their own catalog. Zac and Andy discuss some of the influences leading up to this important moment in Phish’s career when they produced some of the most dramatic and emotionally evocative improvisations of their entire career. They also examine the significance of this type of jamming and the legacy it has left on the band’s current material. Though much of the music is difficult, disjointed, and strange sounding, it speaks to the nether regions of your musical souls and Type II Cast claims no liability if tonight’s clips MELT YOUR FACE.

Type II Cast will be back in June with the next Game Show Extravaganza, details to drop “soon.”

Thanks for listening,


PS – Read the Essay Here

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Episode 67: Nerdgasm, Part 3

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The Ultimate Phish ‘Nerdgasm’ Part 3: Sweet Sixteen to the Champion

Howdy once again and welcome back for part three in what has become quite an epic Type II adventure. For this final installment, Chris, Steve Paolini, and I began at the Sweet Sixteen round and played through until we crowned a champion. Again, you really need to listen to both previous episodes to be caught up to speed, as we don’t waste any time going over the rules that made up the selection process. Also, please download the bracket in order to play along at home. This episode features clips of each of the top sixteen jams and the entirety of the winning song to close us out. So block off the next two hours of your life and get ready to find out what Type II Cast deems the “best” phish jam.

Agree or disagree with how things turned out? Let us know below. Also, you can find links to stream all of the jams via this google doc. Thanks for listening, see everyone in two weeks.

- Steve

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Episode 66: Nerdgasm, Part 2

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The Ultimate Phish ‘Nerdgasm’ Part 2: Rounds 1 & 2

Hello and welcome back for Part 2 of the Ultimate Nerdgasm, our take on a “March Madness” style tournament. What separates this from similar brackets are the six rules developed by panelist Chris Glushko and guest .netter Steve Paolini. These rules guided the selection of the 64 jams that we discussed on this episode. Before listening, you absolutely need to listen to the last episode and print out this bracket in order to follow along at home. Over the course of this episode, we voted from the original 64 jams down to the Sweet Sixteen and played clips (each exactly three minutes) for some of the closest matches. Each selection should be credited to the collective consciousness of Chris and Steve. Their Phish nerdiness is truly remarkable. Of course, that left me as the deciding vote on a few occasions, a task that was quite challenging at times. Fortunately, it’s hard to go wrong at the end of the day since all of these selections will fill your ears with hosey goodness.

How would you have voted on these 64 Jams? “Who” do you want to see make it the Final Four? Let us know below, and stay tuned for the final installment of The Ultimate Phish “Nerdgasm” next week.

- Steve

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Episode 65: Nerdgasm, Part 1

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The Ultimate Phish ‘Nerdgasm’ Part 1: The Selection Show

If you’re reading this, you probably consider yourself somewhat of a Phish nerd—someone who gains an unhealthy amount of pleasure in discussing best songs, shows, sets, venues, cities, lyrics, compositions, recordings, jams, lights, and more. With that said, we decided to hold the ultimate Phish nerdgasm, a 64-team March Madness style tournament to determine the best Phish jam of all time. Now, this is nothing new to the Phish blogosphere. We’ve all seen Phish March Madness brackets before, and I’m sure we’ll see them again. But we wanted to make ours just a little different. We did so by taking ourselves way too seriously. And I knew that if there was one person to take on this project with, it was fellow Phish.netter, Mockingbird Foundation volunteer, and list-maker extraordinaire, Steve Paolini.

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Episode 53: SPAC (2012)

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We find ourselves at the last stop on Summer 2012′s Leg 1. We had 3 nights nestled ever so gently into a state park at Saratoga Springs. We had a few bustouts, the type 2 jams, and creative setlists. Overall, we definitely had 3 great nights of music. So it should be no surprise that I was excited to review this run with fellow panelist Chris Glushko and guest Josh Korin. We technically chose 13 clips in all, which may just be the most ever, though we doubt anyone will mind. If you do, please leave a comment on the blog. In fact, send us all your hate mailz, we dare you.

Thanks for listening. We will see you on leg 2.

- Steve

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Episode 52: Jones Beach (2012)

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Well guys, I know it’s only been a few days since the last episode and most of you haven’t even heard that yet, but we just couldn’t wait to keep talking about this Summer Tour 2012. So tonight I am joined by panelist Scotty B. and past guest / phish.neter Adam Scheinberg and we “wax poetic” about this 2-day run on Long Island over the July 4th holiday. Scotty and I were in attendance, while Adam held down the official couch tour. All three of us enjoyed the ultimate bust-out factor, loved the variety in each of the first sets and thought there were type 2 jams to hold up with the best. While this won’t go down as the best two day run in Phishtory, it should certainly have some replay factor for years to come.

Thanks for listening,


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Episode 51: Deer Creek > Alpine Valley (2012)

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This week on the program I am joined by Dave Calarco and Parker Harrington and we embark on the wonderful journey that is reviewing the two Deer Creek and two Alpine Valley shows from summer 2012. These two classic Phish venues almost never disappoint and this year was no different. With the shows falling at just past the halfway point of tour, the boys were in full swing and dealt us beautifully crafted setlists, precise improvisation and some more stage antics. We could have thrown a dart at the setlists and hit a great clip each time but as usual cut down to what we felt were the ten best.

Thanks for listening,


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Episode 32: UIC

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This episode finds myself joined by type II cast regular, Eric Wyman, and guest host, Adam B. from Online Phish Tour. Both were in attendance and assert that a good time was had by all at the last 3 shows of Leg 2. With plenty of clips to choose from this week, a few were left on the studio floor. It should be no surprise to anyone listening that this run is a contender for one of the best in 2011, and perhaps 3.0. As usual, we are here to give our analysis and insight,  wrapped in colorful commentary, baked in a pastry. Grab a glass Merlot, block off the next hour, and enjoy.

- Steve

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Episode 30: Good Lord, Was it Alright.

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By the time you are reading this, Phish will have completed Leg 2 of their 2011 Summer Tour, but here at type II cast, we are just starting the reviews. This week, Scotty, Drew, and Eric tackle the first 3 shows, both Gorge and the Hollywood Bowl. As usual, we selected a few clips to highlight what makes these shows stand out. And we tried not to let future events effect our opinions, though Drew does step into the future machine once.

This post is gonna be another “No Spoilers” episode, as knowing the clips ahead of time could bias some of you out there. Feel free to voice your opinion below, we all check the blog from time to time.

Thanks to all the loyal listeners out there, stay tuned as next week we discuss Tahoe and Outside Lands.

- Steve

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Episode 19: UIC Pavillion, 1994

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With Phish returning to the University of Illinois at Chicago this summer, we found it fitting to review their first UIC performance, which went down on 6/18/94, for Episode 19 of Typeiicast.

In this week’s show, Steve, Sam and I discuss and share clips from this type 2 jam laden gem, beginning with Maze from the first set, and followed by multiple examples of exquisite improvisation from the second set. In addition to audio clips from Peaches En Regalia, Maze, David Bowie, Tweezer, You Enjoy Myself, Chalk Dust Torture, and Tweezer Reprise, Episode 19 also includes a couple of Typeiicast firsts: we play a Grateful Dead Mind Left Body Jam clip from 10/25/73 to illustrate contrast to Phish’s approach to the same chord structure, and we share a couple of minutes of the psychedelic YEM vocal jam. We encourage everybody to give this show multiple listens and hope you enjoy unearthing its many gifts as much as we did.


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Episode 16: Great Woods, Or Mediocre Woods?

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This week, Eric, Drew and myself tackle a “venue review”, and discuss the 14 shows that occurred since 1992 at a little place us phans like to call Great Woods, despite that it has changed names a few times. (We don’t bother to look as to what it is actually called these days, insert jaded vet remark). What we did look for, were tasty clips as to highlight some of the better moments throughout the years. As Drew notes at one point, we could have spent “too much time” in 93-95, so instead, we opted to spread the clip love out amongst the years. Plenty of great moments in 99, 00, and we even found 1 in 04. But in all seriousness, we feel that the boys have strategically placed Great Woods in the tour depending upon their needs. It was once a 2 night weekend stand, needed to ensure ticket sales were good. Now its a Tuesday night with no shows before or after, since they know sales will do well. In the end, we find there were many great moments at this Massachusetts traffic debacle, and we hope there are many more.

Thanks for listening, we will see you guys next week with a review of August 1993.

- Steve

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Episode 13: Best of 2010, Part 1

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Most every blog has been releasing their “best of” opinions over the last month and we just couldn’t resist joining in on the fun. To mix ours up we had all 7 panelists submit their individual Top 10 list, then we ranked and aggregated the scores for a “definitive” TypeIICast Top 10 list. Now there’s some interesting results and some interesting opinions on what makes something most worthy of being included in the list. Join us for Part 1 as Steve, Justin, Sam and Eric defend and discuss their choices and the bonehead exclusions made by their peers.

This week we countdown from #10 – 6 (kind of…it proved to be a challenge mathematically).

Full track listing after the jump.

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Type II Episode 8: Smothered and Covered

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Sometimes the best song in a set is a song that Phish didn’t even write. This week Eric, Sam and Steve dusted off the archives for another 1.0/2.0/3.0 retrospective look at how other musicians have impacted and shaped the sound of Phish. From their beginnings as a bar band in the late 80′s through the most recent tour we investigate not only the songs they choose, but the impact varying genres and styles have on their overall sound.

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Type II Episode 7: The (de)Evolution of Mike’s Song

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This week the crew moves into a new direction. Scott, Tanya and Drew discuss the history of Mike’s Song. They start in the early days and discuss how the song has evolved, and eventually, devolved, into 2010.  The framework used in this episode will be repeated in the next 2, at least, as a complete overview of Phish in the 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 eras.

The first part of this episode will cover the early days. Scott sets the stage and talks about how Mike’s began, the name changes it took in the very beginning, and how it started the “song suite”. From its inception, Mike’s presented itself as a rager, as a song for Trey to wail on. A clip from 5/8/89 is presented to illustrate Scotty’s point.

Then, Tanya takes us to the days of a “beautiful Mikes jam”. The crew feels this era began with NYE ’92 and continued through 1994. It is during this time that the F major jam was started, the song gained legs as being more experimental, and it is worthy to note the frequency at which Mike’s got played, nearly every other show. A clip from 12/30/93 was chosen for this segment.

Up next, Drew discusses the “Glory Days” which he is calling 95-99. During this period, there are many stellar versions of Mike’s to choose from. He dives right into the 11/11/95 clip, and as you could guess, he labels this one epic. After giving due props to 95, we lead into a clip from 8/13/96, again, hitting that epic territory. Finally, Drew touches on the funk that was 97 and the often overlooked jams of 98 and 99.

Then, Scotty brings it back home and breaks down where Mike’s went in Phish 2.0 and 3.0. And, as the title of this episode suggests, we feel Mike’s has tamed it down a bit, and is not the jam vehicle it once was. Scotty notes that the F jam has disappeared, and the song returns to the late 80′s, early 90′s versions which were essential Trey driven. One version which caught the eye of the panel though was 12/28/09, which we grab a clip from.

Finally, the group wraps up a general discussion of the song, I throw out some questions our listeners might be interested in, and we make predictions on the role Mike’s will play in the 2010 holiday run.

Be sure to tune in next week when Sam, Eric and Justin will take us on another nerdy journey into Phish’s history.

Be good,

- Stephen Olker


type II 1.5: Our First Shows, cont. (podcast)

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Tonight we pick up where we left off discussing our first Phish shows with Steve and the remaining three members of the Type II Cast panel, Drew Hitz, Sam Davis and Eric Wyman.

We start off traveling back to Winter of 1992 with Eric, who shares how a “tease” of “On Broadway” cemented him firmly in Phish’s musical grasp in a clip from Mike’s Song. Check out the setlist…

12/29/1992 Palace Theatre, New Haven CT
Set 1: Funky Bitch, Runaway Jim, Guelah Papyrus, Llama, My Friend, My Friend, The Divided Sky, Wilson, Uncle Pen, Stash, Tela > The Oh Kee Pa Ceremony > Suzy Greenberg
Set 2: The Curtain > Tweezer > The Horse > Silent in the Morning, My Sweet One ->Big Ball Jam, Fast Enough for You, All Things Reconsidered, Mike’s Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove, Hold Your Head Up > Terrapin > Hold Your Head Up, The Squirming Coil, Tweezer Reprise
Encore: Big Ball Jam, Carolina, Rocky Top

Next up is Sam from Dogoneblog who brings a different experience prior to his first show in 1999. We take a listen to the boys gelling together on Ghost, What’s The Use and a decidedly “un-zep” jam in Misty Mountain Hop. Here’s a look at the setlist.

7/20/1999 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto ON
Set 1: Chalk Dust Torture, Sample in a Jar > Cars Trucks Buses, The Sloth, The Divided Sky, Waste > Ghost, Wilson > You Enjoy Myself
Set 2: Twist > The Moma Dance, What’s the Use?, Train Song, Also Sprach Zarathustra > Misty Mountain Hop[1]
Encore: Guyute, Hello My Baby
Up third is Drew with his first show from New Years ’93 and how four “idiots” stepped on stage and would forever change the path of a talented classical musician. And why a raging finale to Split Open and Melt will beat out Character Zero any day. Take a peek at the setlist…
12/31/1993 Worcester Centrum, Woostah MA
Set 1: Llama, Guelah Papyrus, Stash, Ginseng Sullivan, Reba, Peaches en Regalia, I Didn’t Know, Run Like an Antelope
Set 2: Tweezer > Halley’s Comet > Poor Heart > It’s Ice > Fee > Possum, Lawn Boy,You Enjoy Myself
Set 3: Auld Lang Syne > Down with Disease Jam > Split Open and Melt, The Lizards,Sparkle > Suzy Greenberg > Hold Your Head Up > Cracklin’ Rosie > Hold Your Head Up,Harry Hood, Tweezer Reprise
Encore: Golgi Apparatus, Amazing Grace
Last but not least, we take a quick listen to a clip from Steve’s first show at Penn State in ’97 and we all wonder how someone who hadn’t listened to any significant amount of Phish prior to the show really felt after a 29 minute Simple.
We’ll be back again next week, LIVE while Phish plays in Augusta ME discussing the first week of Fall tour with Tanya, Jay, Scotty and Steve. We hope you enjoy the show, let us know what you think in the comments!


type II 1.0: Our First Shows (podcast)

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Type II got off to a tremendous start as the members of Panel #1 -
Justin Wendt, Scott Bernstein and Tanya Sperry – each discussed
highlights from their first show moderated by Producer/Host Steve
Olker. We figured talking about our initial Phish experience would be
a great way to give the listeners insight into how we came to be fans
of the band.

Justin started us off by discussing his first show, which took place
at the Van Andel Arena in Grand Rapids, MI on November 11, 1996. Take
a look at the setlist…

Monday, 11/11/1996 Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, MI
Set 1: Chalk Dust Torture, Guelah Papyrus, Cars Trucks Buses, AC/DC
Bag, Sparkle, Brother, Theme From the Bottom, Axilla, Runaway Jim
Set 2: Timber (Jerry), The Divided Sky, Gumbo, The Curtain, Sample in
a Jar, Tweezer, Swept Away > Steep, Maze, Contact, Slave to the
Traffic Light
Encore: Waste, Cavern
Notes: Divided Sky included an All Fall Down signal. [all setlists via

We checked out a funky bit of improvisation from the Tweezer before
Justin revealed the real reason he attended the show that night.

Next, Scotty shared some memories from his first show, which took
place at the Beacon Theatre in New York, NY on April 15, 1994. Take a
look at the setlist…

Friday, 04/15/1994 Beacon Theatre, New York, NY
Set 1: Llama, Guelah Papyrus, Paul and Silas, Harry Hood, Wilson >
Chalk Dust Torture, Bouncing Around the Room > It’s Ice > Down with
Set 2: Maze, If I Could, The Oh Kee Pa Ceremony > Suzy Greenberg > The
Landlady, Julius, Wolfman’s Brother -> Alumni Blues > I Wanna Be Like
You > Hold Your Head Up > Cavern
Encore: Magilla, Amazing Grace
Notes: Suzy through Magilla featured the Giant Country Horns: Carl
“Geerz” Gerhard on trumpet, Dave “The Truth” Grippo on alto sax, Chris
Peterman on tenor sax, Mike Gallick on baritone sax, Don Glasgo on
trombone, and Joey Sommerville on trumpet. Alumni Blues was incomplete
as only one verse was performed, but it was the first since July 18,
1991 (301 shows).

You’ll never believe what Phishy tradition that continues today Scott
was a part of starting that fateful evening. The Giant Country Horns
joined Phish that night and we listened to the moment the six-piece
horn section strode on stage.

Finally, Tanya took us for a ride in the Wayback Machine as she talked
about her first show, which took place at the University of New
Hampshire’s Memorial Union Building in Durham, NH on April 27th, 1989.
Take a look at the setlist…

Thursday, 04/27/1989 Memorial Union Building, University of New
Hampshire, Durham, NH
Set 1: Golgi Apparatus, Jam, The Sloth, The Divided Sky, Sanity, I
Didn’t Know, Alumni Blues > Letter to Jimmy Page > Alumni Blues > The
Lizards, Whipping Post
Encore: Contact, David Bowie
Notes: The Jam, which is sometimes labelled String Changing Nature,
arose while the band tuned their instruments and included some funny
stage banter. This version of Sanity was the fast version.  This show
is believed to have been sponsored by the UNH Outing Club and
performed in the pub of the Memorial Union Building.

As a UNH student, Tanya had a front row seat to the beginning of
Phish’s career. By the end of Whipping Post at her first show she was
completely hooked. We checked out the peak of that Whipping Post as
well as the hilarious intro to Bowie. The frenetic Alumni Blues from
Tanya’s first Phish concert played us out this week.

Check back next Tuesday when Panel #2 – Eric Wyman, Sam Davis and
Andrew Hitz – get in on the act by describing their first Phish shows
along with Steve.

Note: Be kind on the audio… Still working out the new setup – Steve


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